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    sarge5020
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    Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by sarge5020 on Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:25 am

    Does anybody have an Essex Regiment (Tank) button in their collection? If so, would you mind posted a photo? In the book "Black Beret - A History of the Windsor Regiment (RCAC) 1936-2006" by McNorgan and Lock, on page 147 there is the original drawing of the proposed buttons. No one that I have talked to can say for sure if they ever saw one but they are sure that they were produced.

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    John

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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by smasson on Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:34 pm

    Is this a "baret" pin, or a uniform vest button you are interested in?

    My G-Father was in the Essex tank.

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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by sarge5020 on Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:35 am

    I'm looking for the buttons from the uniform jackets. Was your Grandfather George Yule Masson, the first Commanding Officer?
    Here is a photo of the proposed badges, I'm looking for the button with ER TANK and CANADA on it.


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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by smasson on Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:42 am

    Yes, Col G.Y. Masson was my g-father. My dad has a framed display with some Essex Tank items therein. I will get in touch with him and pass on the picture.

    My daughter is doing a project on "significant Canadians", and decided to research more about GYM. This is what had brought me to the website, and your post.

    I will reply when I have more information.

    cheers!

    Steve


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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by sarge5020 on Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:18 am

    That'sgreat. Have you got a copy of the Regiemnt's history book? There is quite a few photos of your Grandfather in there. If you want one, let me know and I'll put you in touch with the Regiemnt. Do you or your Dad live in Windsor?

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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by smasson on Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:41 am

    No I do not have a copy of the Reg. History book.

    Please put me in touch with the team.

    No, my dad does not live in Windsor (Markham now)
    but we are in touch with his brothers, both of whom served (one in the US navy, the other with the RCAF in the late 40s and into the 50s.)

    Please send me some contact information (stephen.masson AT tdsb.on.ca)

    Thx.

    Steve

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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by smasson on Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:17 pm

    I checked with my dad, we both recognized the hat badge. He thinks he might have couple of the other items in a "keep sake" box at home. (he is snow birding now)

    He also looked at the photo, and thought that it might be GYM's hand writing on the page. GYM was an architect and tended to print in italics like that shown in the photo.

    Again, I will keep you aprised of anything I find out.

    cheers,

    Steve

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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by sarge5020 on Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:02 pm

    Steve, I'll send you the information when I get home from work tonight.

    Cheers,
    John

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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by Bill on Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:47 pm

    Just a note guys. Regimental buttons, even if approved, were not made during the war. There is a good chance the design was approved, but no contract was let.

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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by sarge5020 on Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:40 pm

    Bill, that may be true but if there is an example, I would like to see it. I have not found any photographic evidence that they were produced but I am trying to follow every lead I can find. Lt Col Masson designed the badges and with luck, there might be one with the family or there might be evidence that they were never made. The badges for the Regiment were approved and manufactured before the war. The arrival of the first batch of badges was in August of 1938. There is no mention of buttons though.

    It's hard to prove that something does not exist, only that it does but you need to find one first. hmmm

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    John

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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by sarge5020 on Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:32 pm

    Steve, did you get my email with the photos of your Grandfather?

    Cheers,
    John

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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by servicepub on Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:05 pm

    John,

    Do you have any photos of the Essex Regt wearing the black beret? This should have a patch of MacGregor tartan. I would like to find an example to photograph.
    Clive

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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by sarge5020 on Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:22 pm

    Here's a photo of Lt Col G.Y. Masson wearing the Essex Regiment (Tank) badge with the tartan background. I'm told that the tartan was only for the guys that had priviously served with the Scottish before joining the Essex Tanks.

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    John

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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by servicepub on Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:25 pm

    sarge5020 wrote:Here's a photo of Lt Col G.Y. Masson wearing the Essex Regiment (Tank) badge with the tartan background. I'm told that the tartan was only for the guys that had priviously served with the Scottish before joining the Essex Tanks.

    Cheers,
    John

    The 1943 Dress Regs don't specify this limitation and, in the interests of uniformity, I think everyone was entitled.
    Do you know where I might find an example?
    Clive

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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by sarge5020 on Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:11 pm

    I've seen a bunch of photos from that era but this is the only photo of someone wearing the tartan patch. I'll post a photo of Lt Col Masson wearing the Essex Scottish badge with the black beret. It musbe nice being the boss.

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    John

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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by sarge5020 on Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:35 am

    Here is a photo of Lt Col Masson wearing the Essex Scottish badge on his black beret in 1938. Also, a photo of an Essex Regiment (Tank) badge with the tartan.

    Cheers,
    John


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    Grandfather's WWII Canadian Uniform "The Essex Regiment (Tank)"

    Post by wpheaton on Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:58 am

    I am posting pictures of my Grandfather's  "The Essex Regiment (Tank)" glengarry sidecap.






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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by jholl72 on Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:36 am

    Hi wpheaton,
    Here is a link to the photo hosting tutorial for this site. You can also use any photo hosting site you wish and link the pics here.
    If all else fails, PM me and I will post your photo's for you.

    http://www.cdnmilitarycollectors.com/t2381-another-photo-posting-tutorial


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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by wpheaton on Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:41 pm

    Hi wpheaton,
    Here is a link to the photo hosting tutorial for this site. You can also use any photo hosting site you wish and link the pics here.
    If all else fails, PM me and I will post your photo's for you.

    http://www.cdnmilitarycollectors.com/t2381-another-photo-posting-tutorial[/quote]

    Thanks Jeff,

    Your instructions worked great.

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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by sarge5020 on Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:10 am

    William, this is the first time I've seen the ER(T) badge on a Essex Scottish glengarry Many of the original members of the \regiment came from the Essex Scottish so it's certainly not unreasonable that this combination exists. Mind if I ask what your grandfather's full name was? I'd like to research his service in the Essex Tank.

    Cheers,
    John

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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by wpheaton on Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:17 am

    sarge5020 wrote:William, this is the first time I've seen the ER(T) badge on a Essex Scottish glengarry  Many of the original members of the \regiment came from the Essex Scottish so it's certainly not unreasonable that this combination exists.  Mind if I ask what your grandfather's full name was?  I'd like to research his service in the Essex Tank.

    Cheers,
    John


    My grandfather was William Heaton, no middle name, born in Sheffield, England, lived in Cleveland, Ohio, joined Canadian army about 1939, not sure how long he was in, died early 1940s.

    I have sent a request to the Canadian military archives for information.

    The glengarry & uniform is exactly how my father gave them to me. He is dead now so I cannot ask him more. There is no one in the family left to ask.

    Thanks for your help.

    William

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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by wpheaton on Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:18 am

    sarge5020 wrote:William, this is the first time I've seen the ER(T) badge on a Essex Scottish glengarry  Many of the original members of the \regiment came from the Essex Scottish so it's certainly not unreasonable that this combination exists.  Mind if I ask what your grandfather's full name was?  I'd like to research his service in the Essex Tank.

    Cheers,
    John

    John, I have another good story about my grandfather & my dad if you would like to hear it sometime.

    William

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    Re: Essex Regiment (Tank) button

    Post by sarge5020 on Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:40 pm

    Interesting. The Regimental history book, The Black Beret, lists only one Heaton. A Trooper FJ Heaton, Regimental number A116374, joined on 3 November, 1942. I'll try to dig through the archives and see if I can find any more information for you.
    I'm always interested in hearing stories from those who came before us.

    Cheers,
    John

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