82 Pattern E-tool carrying case for 53 pattern shovel.

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    82 Pattern E-tool carrying case for 53 pattern shovel.

    Post by ddaydodger on Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:28 pm

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    Re: 82 Pattern E-tool carrying case for 53 pattern shovel.

    Post by Infanteer on Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:40 pm

    Interesting.... I've never seen that one before.
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    Re: 82 Pattern E-tool carrying case for 53 pattern shovel.

    Post by Tankermike on Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:43 am

    The 53 pattern shovel is not for this carrier, the fold up shovel fits this carrier, the hole is for drainage or dirt, I was isued this set in the early eighties and still have one, the 64 pattern carrier is the same except no plastic tangs to attach to the belt, just a velcro flap.
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    Re: 82 Pattern E-tool carrying case for 53 pattern shovel.

    Post by Infanteer on Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:02 pm

    Tankermike wrote:The 53 pattern shovel is not for this carrier, the fold up shovel fits this carrier, the hole is for drainage or dirt, I was isued this set in the early eighties and still have one, the 64 pattern carrier is the same except no plastic tangs to attach to the belt, just a velcro flap.

    I'm not so sure about that. The same style shovel (53 pattern) was issued with the 64 pattern equipment. Sure, a tri-fold shovel may fit but I'm sure the opening in the bottom was intended for the wood handle to fit through. I've never seen any other kit with a drainage hole that size. Normally a grommet or two is sufficient to drain unwanted water. The standard 82 pattern carrier for the issued tri-fold shovel only has a small grommet on the bottom to drain water and the body is longer in length.

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    1982 Pattern Entrenching Tool Carrier

    Post by edstorey on Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:23 pm

    I can confirm that this carrier was indeed designed for the 1951 Pattern Entrenching Tool. This carrier, which is basically a copy of that which was issued with the 1964 Pattern, was the first carrier type manufactured for the 1982 Pattern. It was replaced within a year by a larger sleeve type carrier for the new folding shovel that became the standard entrenching tool for the 1982 Pattern.

    If you run a check on the NSN number, you will see that it is listed as the Carrier for the 1951 Pattern Entrenching Tool.
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    Re: 82 Pattern E-tool carrying case for 53 pattern shovel.

    Post by ddaydodger on Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:22 pm

    I have both the 51 pattern shovel carrier for the 82 webbing as well as the newer one, the 82 pattern shovel is significantly larger than the 51.
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    Post by Tankermike on Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:56 am

    I was first issued the 64 pattern webbing then the 82 pattern webbing, I have never seen anyone wearing this type of shovel in my years in the CF.

    Why have a shovel from the 1950's with modern web gear, both sets of webbing I was issued had the three fold shovel. Also if I remember there were two versions of the 82 pattern shovel, both were three fold style, but one shovel was bigger than the other. I looked at my 64 pattern webbing and the carrier has leather reinforcemnts on the lip for the three fold shovel.
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    Re: 82 Pattern E-tool carrying case for 53 pattern shovel.

    Post by Infanteer on Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:56 pm

    Just because it doesn't seem to make sense doesn't mean it isn't true. It's common for issue items to be re-purposed or used in a way that they were not originally intended. Don't confuse the way you used a piece of equipment with it's official intended purpose.

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