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    Unknown boonie capbadge

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    Post by Ian B Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:53 am

    Mike, You've got nice badges there. Just so you are aware there is a third which goes in between the two in the rank structure.

    The bottom is, as Bill says, the General List Officer badge, but for Lieut. Colonels and below. Full Colonels and Brigadiers had one for themselves. Think the old CProC hat badge without the banner, just a lion on a crown. The rank of Brigadier was at one time not considered a General rank, but I believe that changed after Unification. The top is for General Officers, Major Gen, Lieut. Gen and Gen.

    Pictures to follow.

    Cheers,

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    Post by Bill Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:45 am

    thanks Ian, I completely forgot about the mid priced help.
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    Post by Ian B Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:03 pm

    Hey, Bill.  No probs.

    Here are the pics as promised.

    My entire pre-70 combat cap badge collection

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    Top (l to r) Generals, Brigadiers/Colonels; bottom (l to r) Officers (LCol & below), Or's

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    Post by pylon1357 Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:38 pm

    Ian, very nice collection you have managed to put together. I have thought of doing something similar, as these badges seem to be under appreciated at the moment.

    Currently I only have one to the 2nd Bn Irish Regiment of Canada


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    Post by edstorey Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:34 pm

    Ian:

    That is a very nice collection of the pre-1970 Combat Cap Badges. Great to see in its entirety.

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    Post by edstorey Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:55 pm

    I decided to do a little research into what these caps were actually called by DND.   Naturally 'boonie' never figured into the name.   From caps held in my collection,

    1966

    Cap, Field, Combat, OD 7 GS

    1989
    Cap, Utility, Combat
    "Quarpel"

    Quarpel was the treatment applied to the material.

    Here are a page from 'Canadian Military Clothing'.

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    Post by Bill Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:22 am

    Thanks Ed, the date of the clothing sheet? Interesting that the clothing is under TROPICAL category.
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    Post by edstorey Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:38 am

    Bill:

    The document dates from the early 1970s.

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    Post by Infanteer Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:09 am

    Funny that the very first thing I noticed when I saw that photo is that the drawstrings are hanging out. That was a big no no when I was in.
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    Post by bomber439 Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:09 pm

    I noticed what looks like a crease in the pants.

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    Post by 67Rally Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:08 pm

    Interesting debate! As US collector and veteran, I rather enjoy observing that other collectors struggle with similar discussions. In the photo above, the cap the soldier is wearing is what is termed as a "Sun," "Hot Weather" or "Jungle" hat depending upon the MIL Spec and contract as well as the time period for which it was manufactured. My father, a Vietnam vet, still has his issued boonie and wears it when working around the yard in the hot sun. I have a few that I've collected from my veteran buddies who wore them in country (i.e. Somalia, Kuwait, and Iraq/Afghanistan).

    Terminology is a funny thing. Within the same armed forces (I prefer that term), we can identify the same piece of equipment by a wide range of terms. It stands to reason, those varying names trickle out to the collectors spawning such lively debates.

    Just my $.02.
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    Post by Tankermike Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:18 am

    [img]Unknown boonie capbadge - Page 2 Boonie11[/img]

    Some of my collection

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    Post by Tankermike Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:19 am

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    Post by Tankermike Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:20 am

    [img]Unknown boonie capbadge - Page 2 Boonie13[/img]
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    Post by Tankermike Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:24 am

    [img]Unknown boonie capbadge - Page 2 Boonie14[/img]
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    Post by Tankermike Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:27 am

    [img]Unknown boonie capbadge - Page 2 Boonie15[/img]




    My most unusual combat badge, this Quebec flag, never seen one before. I wonder if it was actual issue or a kit shop item. Or only wishful thinking from our Quebec brothers, plastic backing.
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    Post by Infanteer Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:57 am

    Definitely not an issue item
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    Post by Tankermike Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:25 am

    If anyone collects these, I have some traders avaliable.

    And lots of the green unit tabs as well.

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    Post by bomber439 Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:06 pm

    cpgear manufactures provincial flags (amongst many others) in colour or tactical. I suspect this is one of them.

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    Post by Bill Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:43 pm

    Hello Mike, I wrote the book on combat titles. Lots of traders.
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    Post by Tankermike Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:19 pm

    The flag has the so called "iron on" backing, which wasn't (I dont think) iron on. The flags thread and material is spot on to a capbadge material. But was most likely made commercially somewhere.

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    Post by Infanteer Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:51 pm

    Well, if you think about it this way, even combat cap badges were manufactured for the military by contractors so they were technically commercially produced too.

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