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    Sten Mk.II Deact

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    Post by mk1rceme Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:01 am

    Wish this one could still burp. It peacefully resides on my mannequin for display purposes.

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    Post by mk1rceme Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:01 am

    86thBattalion wrote:Nice piece Dale. I just parted with my last firearm, last month, a 1950's vintage Longbranch No4. Sadly my previous beautiful collection of Ross, Longbranch Lee Enfields and Canadian FN's, died do to our previous governments Bill C68. :x 303


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    Ouch! Thats not nice.

    Being a hard-headed Albertan, I rebelled against the gun laws. Good thing too since it may be repealed.


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    Post by Michael Reintjes Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:52 am

    Some more Sten guns and Rosses
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    Post by mk1rceme Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:59 am

    My goodness! Shocked What a collection! Are the rifles operable?

    I also spy a Herbie print on the wall...is that an original?

    Thanks for showing!


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    Post by Michael Reintjes Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:09 pm

    Yes the rifles are operable...I used to shoot the Mk2 Ross in competition...Yes the Herbie is an original marker drawing he did for the service battalion in Lonson Ontario after the war...M
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    Post by Michael Reintjes Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:59 pm

    Yes..there is a 1903 Ross a 1905 Ross and a M10 Ross and a Canadian Marked P17 at the bottom. The MG08/15 was captured by 5th Cdn Mounted Rifles in Jan 1918 near Loos.
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    Post by 37patt Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:46 pm

    I have also used my Mk II* in matches - lots of fun. It's also very nice to see other collections and the way they get displayed.
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    Post by Seaforth Highlander Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:41 pm

    Just a note on terminology. Not rules, just guidelines for common language...

    Deact = British term for deactivated firearm.

    Dewat = Canadian term for deactivated war trophy (same as above, just different abbreviation)
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    Post by Infanteer Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:40 pm

    Seaforth Highlander wrote:Just a note on terminology. Not rules, just guidelines for common language...

    Deact = British term for deactivated firearm.

    Dewat = Canadian term for deactivated war trophy (same as above, just different abbreviation)

    Perhaps, but the RCMP provides a guide for deactivation... not a guide for dewatting.... Many (most?) people who I speak to have no clue what I'm saying when I talk about Dewats so it may be an obsolete term now in Canada. Many deactivated firearms are not military related let alone being considered a war trophy. Deactivation is a broader term that is appropriate in all cases whereas Dewat is really only applicable to some.
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    Post by Seaforth Highlander Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:20 pm

    BOTH abbreviations are for words/phrases that include the word "deactivated." The abbreviation "Dewat" has been in use in Canada for well over half a century and likely since WWI.

    In the UK a "Deact" comes with a deactivation certificate. In Canada there is no certificate though sometimes there is a letter from a gunsmith stating what they have done, or one from the police saying it is no longer a firearm if it is being deregistered. The Brits have Old Spec Deacts(can be disassembled) and New Spec Deacts (cannot be disassembled.)

    "Dewat" is still a common term in Canada and although its origin was in the deactivated military souvenirs, it also applies to civilian firearms that have been deactivated and thus ceased to be firearms.

    I suggest that to avoid confusion over jargon abbreviations, that one simply uses the word "deactivated."




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