Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Share

    Infanteer
    Member

    Posts : 804
    Join date : 2009-12-11

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Infanteer on Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:52 pm

    Wgrenadier wrote:That's good to know, thanks for sharing!   Very Happy

    It must have still been more labor intensive, or expensive, than simply placing 3 rivets...

    Definitely. More skill and specialized equipment is required compared to rivets so it makes sense to use rivets to keep the costs low.

    Wgrenadier
    Moderator

    Posts : 285
    Join date : 2013-02-16

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Wgrenadier on Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:29 pm

    I guess CCB was around in 1939, even if they weren't necessarily producing mess tins...


    Wgrenadier
    Moderator

    Posts : 285
    Join date : 2013-02-16

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Wgrenadier on Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:17 pm

    Here is a 1941 aluminum megaphone that is currently on eBay, it clearly shows that Aluminum Goods, Limited of Toronto was making aluminum products very early in the war...




    Sullivan
    New Member

    Posts : 12
    Join date : 2014-11-11

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Sullivan on Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:04 pm

    Another mess tin cover on the request of Mike. I found this example between several hundred used British mess tin covers (some even have rust marks of the handles of the mess tins on the inside) A lot did not have any markings any more, but the dated ones where from 1938 to 1940. It was the only Canadian one I came across.






    Wgrenadier
    Moderator

    Posts : 285
    Join date : 2013-02-16

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Wgrenadier on Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:55 pm

    Great cover! Thanks for posting Sullivan!

    It shows that 'WOODS MFG. CO. LTD.' made these covers in along with 'TAPATCO'.


    Sullivan
    New Member

    Posts : 12
    Join date : 2014-11-11

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Sullivan on Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:46 am

    I can post the pictures of the British mess tin covers and ration bags later in the British section if interested?

    Wgrenadier
    Moderator

    Posts : 285
    Join date : 2013-02-16

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Wgrenadier on Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:41 pm

    I think people come to forums for the pictures and stay for the information, so pictures are always welcome! Very Happy

    toutfou
    Member

    Posts : 46
    Join date : 2010-02-12

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by toutfou on Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:50 am

    Here is mine,

    found with metal detector in Normandy (near Caen)

    named M. BAKURINSKY
    can't read the service number of the soldier.




    Wgrenadier
    Moderator

    Posts : 285
    Join date : 2013-02-16

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Wgrenadier on Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:48 am

    That is a great find toutfou! 2 thumbs up

    The background and pictures make a great addition to this thread!

    toutfou
    Member

    Posts : 46
    Join date : 2010-02-12

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by toutfou on Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:41 am

    party2

    here is an alluminium plate, found with metal detector too.
    No date.






    Wgrenadier
    Moderator

    Posts : 285
    Join date : 2013-02-16

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Wgrenadier on Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:56 pm

    Great find! Did you find that in Normandy as well?

    Wgrenadier
    Moderator

    Posts : 285
    Join date : 2013-02-16

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Wgrenadier on Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:03 pm

    Does anybody know what the '340331254' marking on this Canadian mess tin denotes? Is it a service number?


    Bill
    Moderator

    Posts : 983
    Join date : 2009-11-28

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Bill on Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:11 pm

    It may be. For a period of time the armed forces used a nine digit number as the service number. The number used was the serviceman's social insurance number.

    Wgrenadier
    Moderator

    Posts : 285
    Join date : 2013-02-16

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Wgrenadier on Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:19 pm

    Thanks Bill, do you know what time period the nine digit number was used?

    Bill
    Moderator

    Posts : 983
    Join date : 2009-11-28

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Bill on Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:44 am

    SIN's were used circa 1968 through the 1990's.

    Wgrenadier
    Moderator

    Posts : 285
    Join date : 2013-02-16

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Wgrenadier on Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:05 pm

    I was afraid of that! duh

    Thanks Bill!

    Wgrenadier
    Moderator

    Posts : 285
    Join date : 2013-02-16

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Wgrenadier on Sun May 31, 2015 12:12 am

    Here's another Canadian mess tin maker! General Steel Wares! ...I wish I could find a better picture though...


    Wgrenadier
    Moderator

    Posts : 285
    Join date : 2013-02-16

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Wgrenadier on Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:43 pm

    Finally cracked the CCB mystery! It was Coulter Copper & Brass Company, Limited!

    https://www.lib.uwo.ca/programs/companyinformationcanada/ccc-coulter.html

    "The 1914-18 war revolutionized the business. The company switched to munitions manufacture, making heavy outlays for machinery for which it was feared, initially, that no use would be found after the war. In fact, however, the plant was rapidly converted to peacetime production of automotive parts, which by 1929 represented the major part of production.

    In 1928, following the sale of the Booth family's interests to members of the Coulter family, the company name was changed to Coulter Copper & Brass Co., Limited. In the course of time, technological changes caused coppersmithing to become "metaIsmithing," due to the rapid evolution of new metal alloys which began to replace copper on certain jobs."

    Wgrenadier
    Moderator

    Posts : 285
    Join date : 2013-02-16

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Wgrenadier on Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:47 pm

    It is with great pleasure that I present the following table with all known Canadian-made mess tin makers and their identities!! Got 'em all figured out in less than a year! Very Happy



    Last edited by Wgrenadier on Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:18 am; edited 1 time in total

    Haplo
    Member

    Posts : 106
    Join date : 2010-03-26
    Age : 37
    Location : The Netherlands

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Haplo on Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:10 pm

    Nice work. not worthy

    48th
    Member

    Posts : 266
    Join date : 2012-12-05

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by 48th on Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:49 pm

    Very nice, thanks for taking the time to put together such a comprehensive study for us to view.

    Wgrenadier
    Moderator

    Posts : 285
    Join date : 2013-02-16

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Wgrenadier on Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:09 pm

    Thanks for the nice comments guys! :)

    Coulter Copper & Brass must have made brass buttonsticks as well, as I have seen a ton of them marked CCB with Canadian broad arrows over the years...

    Tankermike
    Member

    Posts : 340
    Join date : 2010-02-11
    Age : 51
    Location : Edmonton

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Tankermike on Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:12 am

    Thanks for the info 2 thumbs up

    Haplo
    Member

    Posts : 106
    Join date : 2010-03-26
    Age : 37
    Location : The Netherlands

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Haplo on Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:18 am

    On an other forum (metal detecting) someone posted a messtin stamped on the underside.
    Markings are: Supreme ware. Metal stampings Ltd. Made in Canada.
    Found somewhere in Germany.
    So this one could be added to the list.

    Wgrenadier
    Moderator

    Posts : 285
    Join date : 2013-02-16

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Wgrenadier on Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:23 pm

    That is very interesting Sipke! Thank you for finding this information!

    Metal Stampings Ltd. seems to have made a great deal of rigging knives in the post-war years, but I have seen a number of online sources that state the company did not exist during WWII...

    http://rigger.hegewisch.net/MS.html

    This may simply mean that Metal Stampings Ltd. mess tins were made for the Korean War or later conflicts. Either way, it would be great to see photos of an actual tin with these markings!

    Sponsored content

    Re: Question about Canadian WWII Mess Tins...

    Post by Sponsored content Today at 7:14 am


      Current date/time is Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:14 am