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    toutfou
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    help on Toronto Scottish emblem

    Post by toutfou on Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:32 pm

    Hi guys,

    what is the insignia present on this helmet :



    best regards

    seb

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    Re: help on Toronto Scottish emblem

    Post by Bill on Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:41 pm

    Do you have a date for the photo? The Tor Scots were authorized a regimental flash, but it is not like this one. See http://www.servicepub.com/helmetflashes.htm. The Tor Scots private does not have a division patch on his tunic, while the officer has the officers' 2 CID patch.

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    Re: help on Toronto Scottish emblem

    Post by toutfou on Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:15 am

    Hi Bill,

    i found this picture on "servicepub" same web link , no more information

    perhaps a dragoon ?

    seb

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    Re: help on Toronto Scottish emblem

    Post by Bill on Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:19 am

    Not sure what you mean by a dragoon? The soldier with the rampant lion decal on the helmet is wearing Toronto Scottish shoulder titles. The Toronto Scottish were the MG support battalion in 2 CID. The officer is wearing a great coat with the 2 CID patches.

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    Re: help on Toronto Scottish emblem

    Post by toutfou on Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:28 am

    thank you,

    I thought the animal was a dragoon, but you give me the information.

    It is a lion like one this picture :


    What is the backing color for the Tor. Scts ?

    thank you

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    Re: help on Toronto Scottish emblem

    Post by Bill on Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:35 am

    No idea. They use hodden gray for their tartan, maybe transferred to the helmet marking?

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    Re: help on Toronto Scottish emblem

    Post by toutfou on Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:24 am

    the colors are identical to the shoulder title,

    so perhaps the lion is Red, and the backing is Yellow.

    seb

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    Re: help on Toronto Scottish emblem

    Post by Bill on Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:30 am

    Maybe, but black and white images can be tricky when transposing to colour.

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    Post by edstorey on Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:57 am

    It would probably help if you knew the photograph's metadata - place, date, who, what, when, etc.

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    Re: help on Toronto Scottish emblem

    Post by sarge5020 on Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:28 pm

    Maybe he just borrowed the helmet from someone else?

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    Re: help on Toronto Scottish emblem

    Post by pylon1357 on Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:16 am

    These staged photos are always a pain. I know that black and white photos can play havoc with true colours, however, the insgnia on the photo (my best guess) seems to be red on yellow background.

    Do you have any information on the origins of this photograph? Place and date would be quite helpful.


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    Post by edstorey on Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:16 am

    I made the same comment early on in the post. It would not surprise me if the person with the helmet was British and not Canadian.

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    Re: help on Toronto Scottish emblem

    Post by qsamike on Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:35 am

    Good Morning......

    No really my field but I would like a guess.....

    Just above the Toronto Scottish flash you can make out at least one pip or possibly crown for an officer.....

    The helmet flash could be British and the Officer could possibly be a CanLoan Officer......

    Would they still wear their original flashes or the flash of the unit they were assigned to????????

    Just a guess on my part......

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