Gentlemen,

I do not have a lot of pictures on my computer but will take some more soon. Here are a few I have on file:

Four types of British made shoulder flashes



Some more badges and pictures:



And here is a picture just to tease all of you! :lol:



And this last picture isn't mine... but the Can Scots play hardball!



Wouter

Thanks Wouter. The Canadian Scottish have a lot of varieties, many different runs. Could you post an image of the backs of the titles?

Here is an image of my Canadian Scottish titles Second World War era.

Hi Bill, they have indeed. Here are the backs. I am going to make a picture of all of my shoulder flashes. There is one in your picture of which I do not know the model. The one in the bottom right corner.

In my opinion, the ones on the left side are from top to bottom:

Printed canvas 44-45
Square bottom, unsure when these were made, I think 1943.
First British made model
Later British (would like to see a close up)
British by Hobson & Sons
Early Canadian made

And on the right:

First British
Later British
Hobson & Sons 44/45
About the last one I am not sure. Looks Canadian.

Here are all of my cloth flashes. I apologize for the somewhat dark pictures, but the sun was going down over here.

Now I also have some other badges. The top left cap badge was left behind by a Can Scot right here in Deventer. Grandad picked it up and he gave it to my dad. Some years ago I have claimed it as my rightful posession.




A Glengarry,



And a balmoral:

Here are the fighting Canadian Scottish who attended last years reunion:



Apart from the bits and pieces posted here I also have an overcoat to a major from C Company, but it does not have regimental flashes on it. Although I know a whole lot of people who still have their battledresses, I have none, so am still on the lookout for one of those. If anyone comes across anything Canadian Scottish, let me know. This goes for both world wars. If it is something truly special (such as medal sets) I will notify the regimental museum.

Wouter

Well that totally sucks. I had a lengthy reply and it vaporized somewhere between send and arrival.

You could try pressing the back button on your browser. That usually does the trick for me.

HI Wouters, First, a really nice accumulation that you have.
I had a lengthy reply written and it totally vanished. That sucks.
Back to my reply.
Re the canvas titles. The one with the thick cord type backing is a 1943 issue. The weight of cloth was changed, and later issues (late 1944 or early 1945) were backed with the thin black cotton backing. The printed titles were the only pattern supplied to the Canadian army in the UK from 1943 until just around the end of the war.
Re the titles without the embroidery stitched through them, are they flocked titles? Eg the lettering and design is sprayed on? Hard to tell from the image. If they are flocked they were made in Canada.
Re the starch back titles. These are a bit of a mystery. There is no record of them in documents at archives, and yet this pattern exists for every Canadian unit that was in the European theatre of ops at the end of the war. It is also interesting that for some units, there are lots of these around, and virtually none for others. I have had a couple of tunics with the these titles on them, so they are good, but the provenance has yet to be recorded.
Re the Hobson's title. These must be private purchase or a unit order prior to 1942. Hobson's were not accepted as a contractor for titles. They were found to be too expensive. Instead, embroidered titles were orderd from Lewis Falk. They were not contracted for any more embroidered titles when the Canadian army switched to printed titles.
Private purchase titles raise several questions. In the documentation at archives, there are many comments about wool being a controlled wartime material. It's use was governed by a board, who granted permission to sell or use quantities of wool for title making. In fact, this appears to be one of the reasons that the British army went to printed titles. It is odd that there are so many variations of titles to the Canadian Scottish with this shortage of material in mind.
The Canadian Scottish had at least one major order of titles before they embarked for overseas, and that is the pattern at the bottom of the left column. Very hard to find these early titles.

No, the back button was the first thing I tried. The only thing I can think, is that we were both posting at the same instance. When I sent my original, now lost message, you were posting your pic of the vets. Must have conflicted somehow. Anyway, I redid that message, and it is the one above.

Hi Bill, which ones do you mean with starch back? Also, do you mean my left column or your left column? In the picture of my C Scot R flashes, the second set from above is actually of the same type as the left bottom. The middle ones, without the embroidery showing were given to me by the same veteran who gave me the set of early British made titles above them. I have been told that these 'printed on felt' titles were ordered by Canadian Army HQ after complaints were filed as to the quality of the British made embroidered titles, which would have been the Hobson & Sons titles.

What do you think about the title with the black backing, bottom right hand corner?

Hi Wouters, (I hope that is the name you prefer?)
Just found that there is an enlargement feature on the images. Great!
The one I was talking about was the second one down. That is a sprayed colour on the felt backing. These were quite common in Canada for sports crests, etc, but were not durable. The army experimented with those in 1942 and rejected that pattern. There are many examples of that type around for several units. That is the first example of a Canadian Scottish flocked that I have seen. Some of these may have been private purchase as well. There are records of units using the flocked pattern before 1942.
The starch back ones appear to be the ones in the second row and on the bottom left of your image. They are made of a wool felt, with no backing, but have a sort of glue or sizing to strengthen the title. Even so they were not as durable as the melton ones.
Wouters, what characteristics of that embroidered title make you say it is Hobsons? As I said, there is no record of the unit ordering titles from Hobson's, but that is not conclusive that they didn't buy them.
The bottom right on your image is interesting. Can you get a close up of the stitching?

Hi Bill, my name is actually Wouter, without an S at the end. The crude embroidery of the titles make me say it is a Hobson's. A knowledgeable Dutch collector also shares this opinion with me, he has a lot of examples to show and I'll send him a message if he knows about this forum.

If, by second one down you mean the used set second from the top, I have 3 of those. Both those two and the one in the bottom left corner, which is in unissued condition.

Do you know anything about the squared badge? It's the one right beneath the printed badge in your picture. Also, what do you know of the bottom left and right? The left one looks like an early Canadian to me but am not sure. I don't think I have seen the bottom right before but it looks Canadian. Will go and scan the one with the black backing now.

The one you requested:




The one which I think is British made:




And the ones of which I have never seen another pair: