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    Post by thegate Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:12 pm

    Hello all and  particularly the experts in English badge of division.

    As documentations is almost non-existent has this subject. I makes the request in near you.

    Can you help me has to identify this?

    Thank you has all.


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    Post by 37patt Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:27 pm

    Here are a couple of slight possibilities.

    54th (East Anglian) Infantry Division - this one should have "JP" on it. Does it look like anything was removed from yours?
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    44th (Home Counties) Infantry Division - this one is an Oval patch and yours looks to be round.

    Not much to go on I'm afraid, as both patches I've listed are probably incorrect due to missing letters or the wrong shape.
    The only other thing I see is the cut of the uniform - it is probably a Highland unit.

    The three green stripes indicate the Brigade to which the unit belonged. In this case the 3rd Brigade, and the dark green indicates that it was an Infantry Rifle Regiment.

    Good luck.
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    Post by thegate Mon Mar 16, 2015 5:36 am

    Thank you 37patt,
    For the 44th actually the badge was to be oval.
    Thus I eliminate this track.

    For the 54th ( East Anglian ) Infantry Division the track is not bad if we could see that it uses the red circle without letters JP.
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    Post by Bill Mon Mar 16, 2015 5:41 am

    Am I missing something here? As 37ptn said, the tunic is a highland "cutaway" pattern. This would suggest a highland battalion for the division/battalion sign on the sleeve.
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    Post by edstorey Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:02 am

    This whole discussion thread could be a moot point. How do we know the insignia is even original to the jacket?
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    Post by thegate Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:33 am

    Look this pic.
    LANCE CORPORAL OF ‘B’ COMPANY 2ND KING’S OWN YORKSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY AS EQUIPPED FOR THE NIGHT OPERATION ON THE PASSCHENDAELE
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    Post by Bill Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:08 am

    Again, this soldier is wearing the regular style service dress tunic, not a cutaway highland pattern tunic. And, as Ed says, the badges may have been added at a later point in time.
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    Post by thegate Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:21 am

    Yes I understands, but I looked has to identify badges.
    Thus they would be of OF KING LIGHT OWN Yorkshire INFANTRY.

    Now the badges may have been added at a later , possible, I would know about it more when I would have it in hand.
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    Post by edstorey Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:37 am

    The other point is that badges may not be original and seeing the labelling on the jacket would be nice. I would be surprised if it was original.
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    Post by ypres Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:24 am

    I believe this was eBay last week. Interesting tunic. If I recall it has the remains of a paper label. It may have been tailored. It seems to be missing rifle patches and the pocket flaps have been scalloped. Any chance we could get a close up of the collar area and a shot of the inside. If I recall correctly the inside may be lined ?

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    Post by thegate Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:25 am

    Yes Ypres, it is good that one,
    as soon as I receive it I makes you more photos
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    Post by edstorey Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:52 am

    How do you know if it is a good one when you have not even seen it?

    You came to this forum asking about the formation badges that apparently do not even match with the cut away jacket. You have no details of the interior and the jacket has been heavily modified. How does that in anyone's world equate to being 'good'?

    Perhaps I am missing something, what is 'good' about this jacket?
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    Post by ypres Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:06 pm

    I believe the painting has two brigade bars and the uniform has 3? Perhaps you should find out what division the "2ND KING’S OWN YORKSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY" was in during 1917. You could then see if the 3rd Brigade in the division had a highland unit?

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    Post by thegate Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:54 pm

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    Post by edstorey Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:31 pm

    If you bought this then you have in my opinion bought someone's crap. Way too much wrong with this Jacket to be classified as 'good'.
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    Post by thegate Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:08 pm

    Ouin! It is always a pleasure to read you Ed
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    Post by jholl72 Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:35 pm

    I believe the insignia has been added recently. I don't like the way it sits on the uniform.


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