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    Post by Didier Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:07 am

    Hello,

    I have a question about the rank chevrons worn by the Regina Rifles on their battle dresses in June 1944: were they always coloured, as seen on most photos, or could the standard chevrons still be found on their uniforms? I have read somewhere that the Regina rifles started wearing coloured chevrons at the end of WWII, but I would like to know whether uncoloured chevrons would still be consistent with a BD worn on 6 June 1944 and later during the Battle of Normandy.

    Thank you in advance for your replies!

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    Post by Didier Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:11 am

    Here is a photo:

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    My impression is that the BD is at least partly (or wholly?) made up, in particular as regards the title, but the different elements may be authentic (the BD itself was made in January of 1943).
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    Post by Wouter Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:04 am

    They should have the dark chevrons for a rifle regiment, in this case with a red backing. Normal chevrons, though not impossible, are a peculiar sight on a rifle regiment battledress. Wouldn't be for me!

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    Post by Didier Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:44 am

    Dank je wel, Wouter !
    Then I shall have to do away with the chevrons, if they are a later addition. That way, this battle dress blouse will be consistent with a 1944 Regina rifleman impression.
    The fact that this could be a made up BD blouse is not a problem for me, provided the insignia are original WWII items. I have come to regard a majority of the WWII BD blouses floating around either as made up or much later "original" stuff anyway.
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    Post by Didier Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:36 pm

    Here are some closer views of the insignia - genuine or reproductions, that I cannot tell.

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    Apparently, there is one such configuration at the Canada War Museum of Adegem, in Belgium, but that does not mean that the BD blouse they used for that mannequin is historically correct :

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    Post by edstorey Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:29 pm

    You need to own a copy of 'Fabric of War' by Bill Alexander, his book will answer any question you have about the authenticity of a badge or badge combination found on a BD blouse.

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    Post by Didier Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:30 am

    edstorey wrote:You need to own a copy of 'Fabric of War' by Bill Alexander, his book will answer any question you have about the authenticity of a badge or badge combination found on a BD blouse.

    Well, actually, as far as the combination is concerned, I have very little hope this one is genuine: too many details point to a more modern set up.

    I am not sure I will be able to grab a copy of the book, but I will look for it, thank you.
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    Post by Didier Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:52 am

    edstorey wrote:You need to own a copy of 'Fabric of War' by Bill Alexander, his book will answer any question you have about the authenticity of a badge or badge combination found on a BD blouse.

    I have ordered the book ^^
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    Post by LSR Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:58 am

    For what I understood there are no badge backings in that book, and they are  just as important as the front of the badge.
    About the badges on your BD: Titles seem Canadian made to me, can you see the backing, when you lift it a bit?
    Divisional badges look also Canadian made (melton) to me because of the cross thread that is visible in the mot nips, felt does not have a cross thread.

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    Post by Didier Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:19 am

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    From what little surface of the backing is showing underneath the stitching, it seems to be light-coloured.

    Bill Alexander says it is difficult to distinguish WW2 Regina Rifle Regiment titles from post-war titles, but the fact remains that the khaki chevrons seem out of place on this tunic, even though they are not altogether impossible.

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    Post by LSR Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:35 am

    Light as in tan or khaki? Or white?
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    Post by Didier Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:05 am

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    I would say it looks a shade lighter than Canadian webbing.

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    Post by LSR Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:59 am

    Hence the difference in wear of the badges ,I think it is not very likely this is a wartime badged BD.
    So if you want to change the chevrons, i do have a correct pair lying around for you.
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    Post by Didier Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:51 pm

    I agree with you that this tunic is an unlikely candidate for a wartime battle dress blouse, but, provided its insignia are period-correct, I am happy with it.

    A correct pair of corporal chevrons would be great, though party2

    What do you think of the backing of the titles?
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    Post by edstorey Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:34 pm

    You can not go wrong with canvas insignia.

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    Post by Didier Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:08 am

    Yes indeed, they were only produced during the Second World War, I have been told.
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    Post by LSR Fri Nov 25, 2022 4:45 am

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    Canadian made title, I can not tell war or post war. But it representive for ww2, and indeed what Ed says canvas titles always good, you just have to spend a little more money Wink
    If the chevrons are something for you contact me via PM.

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