How to recognize a good WW2 cap badge?

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    Tiflo 62
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    How to recognize a good WW2 cap badge?

    Post by Tiflo 62 on Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:24 pm

    Hello,

    My question is simple: How to recognize an original cap badge ?
    I have cap badges without maker's markings and I dont know if they are WW2 or post war...

    Thank you in advance for your help.

    Cheers!
    Florent.

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    Re: How to recognize a good WW2 cap badge?

    Post by Bill on Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:48 am

    What a question! Despite it being simple, there is no simple answer to that one. Handling badges, studying badges, and lots and lots of research are needed. Even today, most experts can be fooled by some repros. There is no simple method. A case by case approach is probably the best.

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    Re: How to recognize a good WW2 cap badge?

    Post by Tiflo 62 on Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:10 pm

    Hello Bill,
    Thank you for your reply.
    I tough that some details could help me.I will create a topic foe my last find, a SDG cap badge.

    Cheers!

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    Re: How to recognize a good WW2 cap badge?

    Post by Tankermike on Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:42 pm


    In my experience you look for poor detail on the front and rear of the badge, this usually means a copy, and extra flashing and misaligned features. It is a steep learning curve a many new collectors see a badge and want to immediately grab it, take your time and look at it carefully. Also if the solder on the lugs look new, its a copy.

    Others may have hints as well.

    Here is a copy of a badge and what to look to look for in this particular badge.


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    Re: How to recognize a good WW2 cap badge?

    Post by Tiflo 62 on Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:43 pm

    Hello,
    Thank you for this example of copy Wink
    Is there any difference of details between the ww2 and post war production?

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    Re: How to recognize a good WW2 cap badge?

    Post by Tankermike on Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:34 am

    Most post war cap badges are made with sliders, if your talking after Korea.

    Chris Brookers books are an excellent reference, available from Service Publications.

    Mike

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    Re: How to recognize a good WW2 cap badge?

    Post by Bill on Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:03 am

    Small correction Mike. Slidered badges were not authorized until circa 1958. The first pattern badges were fitted with straight sliders. The later pattern were tapered and some had circular/ball ends.

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    Re: How to recognize a good WW2 cap badge?

    Post by Tiflo 62 on Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:36 am

    Hello,
    Thank you for your help.

    An example with this SDG cap badge:





    No flashing from mold, lot of detail. It looks good for me but I need your opinion.

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    Re: How to recognize a good WW2 cap badge?

    Post by Bill on Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:44 am

    Good badge. Nothing wrong with that example.

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    Re: How to recognize a good WW2 cap badge?

    Post by Tiflo 62 on Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:32 am

    Thank you Bill! Wink

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    Cap Badge

    Post by edstorey on Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:14 am

    Where these badges re-struck after WWII, for as we know, KC badges were issued until at least 1952 and usually much longer.

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    Re: How to recognize a good WW2 cap badge?

    Post by Bill on Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:43 pm

    Yes, there were kc badges made post war. Not restruck, but continued to contract and strike them from the existing dies which were held in most part by NDHQ. Most collectors don't realize that the qc issue of militia badges didn't really get into swing until about 1958, and for some units the issue was much later. For example, the Elgins didn't get a qc badge until the early 70's.

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    Badge Identification

    Post by edstorey on Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:33 pm

    So is it possible to tell if a metal KC cap badge was manufactured during the war?

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    Re: How to recognize a good WW2 cap badge?

    Post by Bill on Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:43 pm

    Not 100%, unless it was a unit that was converted or reduced to nil strength immediately after the war.

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