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    Post by pylon1357 on Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:35 pm

    Please note that member edstorey has been banned. Although his knowledge is quite vast, his attitude toward other members has been less than cordial. This is an issue that has been discussed with this member many times, to no avail.


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    Re: Banned Member

    Post by ypres on Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:38 pm

    Hi guys,

    I have no say in this forum, but as a member I am uncomfortable with banning anyone. I have reviewed recent posts Ed has replied to and fail to see what Ed may have said to warrant the "Ban"? Perhaps it was deleted and I can't find it?  Below, I have pasted a copy of sections of the forum guidelines that appear pertinent to this. I can't see, based on these, where the issue is ? Although at times, members comments can appear "Dry" or "Sharp", does this mean the comments are considered harassment or being so offensive or negative that a ban is necessary. The guidelines below seem to give a wide latitude to disagreements and various opinions that won't even be deleted never mind banning the members who are involved in the dispute ..... Just my feelings...

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    CMCF understands that inevitably ALL members will not agree on ALL topics & ideas ALL the time. There WILL be disagreements & tempers will flare. This is completely normal, it happens in marriages & relationships....so it will definitely happen in forums as well. all CMCF asks is that when disagreeing with someone or when correcting someones mistakes...please USE CAUTION and BE COURTEOUS. Also please show or provide links to backup your reasoning if it is available.

    We all know how it feels to be told "SORRY PAL...YOU ARE WRONG" or "THAT IS FAKE", it is NOT fun to hear...SO please keep in mind how you feel when told that....when correcting or disagreeing with someone else.

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    Re: Banned Member

    Post by pylon1357 on Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:32 pm

    Ypres. First let me comment, you do have a say in the forum operations. Every member has a say in what goes on here.

    We do take all suggestions and ideas and discuss them. Although we have not done so in a while.

    In regards to the banning of one of our members, this was not a reactionary decision based on a single post.The decision was made, based on many posts and brash comments over an extended period of time. I have spoken to Ed many times about this, yet still it continues. I know Ed and consider him a friend, this decision was NOT made lightly.

    Is the ban permanent? or just a time out.... well that is to be discussed between the moderators, and a decision will be made.


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    Re: Banned Member

    Post by ypres on Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:38 pm

    Thanks for the clarification. I also am pleased to see the "Ban" may be revisited in the future.

    All the best,

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    Re: Banned Member

    Post by mk1rceme on Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:24 pm

    I tried to be fairly open and understanding with the rules....looks like an update is in order.


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    Re: Banned Member

    Post by Tankermike on Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:26 am

    Ed should have been banned a long time ago, his abusive and rude behaviour should not be tolerated. He has been banned form other forums as well, he doesn't understand how to communicate with people in a respectful manner.

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    Re: Banned Member

    Post by Chuck Biscuits on Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:26 pm

    As small of a world as it is (and it took me a couple months to clue in)Ed Story and his wife were my grandparents neighbours for quite a long time..back in the 80s when i was a kid he came across as quite rude and arrogant as well yet his wife is about the nicest person youd ever meet..anyways,look at it as part of his charm,please keep in mind he cant help the way he talks to others...and this military stuff IS all he knows,its his only interest..to the point he has another building erected in his back yard to keep it all in,which ive wanted to check out for over 30yrs now and havent been allowed lol...so if you want a forum member that knows his stuff Ed is the guy..please remember the primary reason why we visit this site,knowledge on the subject...take Eds brow beating with a grain of salt and learn from the man 2 things..#1-all things military...#2-how not to treat people...i say leave it at that and let him back on in a month or so with a warning.

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    Re: Banned Member

    Post by Infanteer on Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:48 pm

    I've known Ed online for at least 15 years and have met him in person several times. In person, he was always very friendly and helpful. He certainly has a different online persona in that he has no tolerance for what he feels are people taking advantage of others who have put the time and effort into research themselves. To be honest, sometimes I could understand his frustration but of course we always have the option to not participate in discussions if we feel someone doesn't deserve to benefit from our knowledge. Berating people online in hopes of changing behavior is undoubtedly an exercise in futility and not beneficial to anyone. I don't agree with his approach and wish he would change his ways as he is very knowledgeable and has an incredible and important collection that could be a very valuable resource to us all. It's unfortunate that he has been banned but he brought it upon himself and likely isn't surprised as he was very aware of how he was perceived by others online.

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