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    Canadian MKII AG/C 1942

    thegate
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    Post by thegate Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:26 pm

    Hello here is 3 weeks which I work hardly to repatriate these helmet in Canada. It is now thing makes. it stirs of the Rare helmet MKII of making AG/C  who produced can copies of these helmet before stopping the production for lack of manganese steel  in 1942.

    The big of production crosses in hand of the firm CL/C and GSW.

    It was up to Sergeant Aubut, who is a French Canadian name, unfortunately it there no roll.
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    Post by thegate Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:23 pm

    the Helmet does not interest you or what?
    Or it something which does not go??
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    Post by kozowy1967 Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:04 am

    Morning Gate I as well have a 1942 dated AG/C my self in my Private collection and you are correct they are quite Rare with only approx 66,000 being produced it is thought for the most part that they were produced under contract for the RCAF .
    IMO you have a nice clean example there and it appears to be sporting a mid to late war British Manufactured net I as well have a few camos in my collection and would love a little peak under the net if you are so willing to pull it back some and take a few more pictures.
    You say that it has been repatriated may I ask from what country Britain or France I reserve my opinion on the camo till I have seen a few better images .

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    Post by thegate Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:35 am

    Hello, I repatriated this helmet of England.
    Here are photos of the camo.

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    Post by kozowy1967 Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:44 am

    Hi Gate sorry for the late reply I have been on the road for the last couple of days I work in Northern Canada and I am just getting home for my week off after a long couple of days of travel.
    As to the camo paint job I do have a couple of concerns do not get me wrong I am always optimistic on these one off kind of Camo helmets and find them extremely interesting but your images do not show a couple of details I would expect to see first off there is a lack of shadowing or a ghost of an imprint left on the shell from were the net has been sitting for 70 odd years I have quite a few netted Mk II helmets in my collection and a few camos this is one of those tell tale signs that help to substantiate that the net has been on the helmet for ages this is not the end of all ends as it really depends on how it was stored but it would have been nice to see more of an imprint.
    The other is the camo paint job it self I would have hoped to see the remnants of wide brush strokes left in the paint it appears to have been sprayed which is quite out of the norm for a WW II Commonwealth period applied camo I have seen a few TR period German helmets with sprayed camo's notably Normandy helmets but very very few camo Mk II's that have rock solid providence.
    Is it just the images or are there remnants of the before mentioned ghost imprint on the shell and brush strokes.

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    Post by thegate Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:54 pm

    Hello, Me includes your skepticism saw it of this camo painting.
    You can notice that it is very used of in the friction who carries me has to believe that it is the reason for which one do not see of brushstroke.
    And I made one makes out a will with some acetone and it does not thus leave it is there for a very long time.
    For the net it very difficult to determine if it was at the beginning or put by the guy there later. In any event I wanted helmet especially to making it who was lacking has my collection.

    I made 2 macro photos so that you see that is not aspray paint.
    Sorry for my English.

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    Post by kozowy1967 Sat Aug 09, 2014 7:31 am

    Morning Gate thanks for the extra images a bit of a tough call on this one but as you have it in hand you may see some of the details that are not evident in your images such as the brush strokes it is a shame the paint is so worn down makes it hard to make out the finer details.
    I am rather optimistic about this Mk II as you well know they are a bit of a minefield I do not see anything wrong with it that would out right condemn it as a fake but a bit of a leap of faith may be required on this one and it all boils down to if you are happy with it .
    Here are a few examples of camos from my collection to help illustrate some of the details such as the wide brush strokes,heavy overlapping paint,crazing,wear and patina that I would have liked to have seen more of on your example.
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    Regards Mark

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