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    Michiel
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    Post by Michiel on Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:49 pm

    Did the Princess Patricias Canadian Light infantry had the shoulder titles, CANADA patch and division patch on their arms. Regulation said yes, but several original BD had none. So for remembrances next year should I have them sewn on, or not. Thats the question.
    Read it again and its about the CANADA patch.


    Thanks in advance
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    Post by BAP on Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:33 pm

    Definitely no 'CANADA'. The general rule was that if the word 'Canada' appeared in the regimental flash it was not repeated with a khaki one below. But the PPCLI for some traditional, regimental reason perhaps dating to their time in WW1 did not. For WW2 you would have the white on red P.P.C.L.I. flash and a red 1st Division flash below....no 'CANADA'.

    The only other example I can point to where this was done is the Cameron Highlanders of Ottawa that did not even have so much as a 'C' for Canada in the title (like the PPCLI did) yet often didn't have the CANADA below either.
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    Post by Michiel on Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:18 am

    Thanks, it's clear now!
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    Post by Bill on Sat Dec 28, 2019 6:25 am

    The "rule" was that nationality titles were to be worn when "CANADA" or "CANADIAN" was not spelled out in the shoulder title. And, as always, some units followed the directive and others didn't. And, it was also a factor of availability. The PPCLI did not wear the Canada title during the Second WW. (The best arguments I have found is that the "C" was for Canada, and that the PPCLI had earned their fame as a Cdn unit and did not wear the nationality title to identify them as such.) Other factors came into play. Some unit names, like North Nova Scotia Highlanders were taken to be so uniquely Canadian that no nationality title was needed. However, depending on the time one checks, NNSH can be seen with the Canada's and without. There was also a logistics issue, and the Canadian army ran out of some titles and patches, especially early in the war and after the intense operations in the fall of 1944. In early 1945, new contracts for badges were held back, while Crerar considered switching the entire insignia scheme back to melton wool from printed. During this period, Canada titles were in short supply in some ordnance stores.

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