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    Rare Boer War Badge.....

    Post by qsamike on Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:18 pm

    Greetings and Salutations to All.....

    For your viewing pleasure.......

    A very rare shoulder badge worn by the Canadian Scouts.....

    They did not have a cap badge but just wore Black Ostrich Feathers in their Stetsons......

    Mike


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    Canadian Scouts and Canada Militia Badges

    Post by GCR817 on Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:26 pm

    Here is my Cdn Scouts shoulder as well. Also some Boer War Canada Militia badges. Anyone have a gilt shoulder to match mine? I would like to make a matched pair.

    Cheers,

    Geoff





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    Re: Rare Boer War Badge.....

    Post by qsamike on Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:41 pm

    Hi Geoff.....

    Do not have a gilt shoulder but have a silver and gilt cap badge that was made onboard ship on way to South Africa....

    The Cross on the Crown is Gold and the letters that spell out Canada are gold, the remainder is silver.... Sorry for the quality of the picture....

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    Re: Rare Boer War Badge.....

    Post by GCR817 on Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:43 pm

    Wow Mike,

    That is a new one to me. What are your thoughts on some of this officer pattern stuff. Did they have jewellers create it for them or was it issued?

    Cheers,

    Geoff

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    Re: Rare Boer War Badge.....

    Post by GCR817 on Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:46 pm

    qsamike wrote:Greetings and Salutations to All.....

    For your viewing pleasure.......

    A very rare shoulder badge worn by the Canadian Scouts.....

    They did not have a cap badge but just wore Black Ostrich Feathers in their Stetsons......

    Mike


    Mike,

    Another question for you. I assume that your title is very thin sheet brass (as is mine). Do you think that these may of been made out of artillery casings? I noticed that 1 pounder casings are about the same thickness as my badge. I am assuming that the titles were made in South Africa and likely produced by locals in small quantity.

    Cheers,

    Geoff

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    Re: Rare Boer War Badge.....

    Post by qsamike on Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:53 pm

    Hi Geoff.....

    I do not think that the gilt badges were worn in South Africa but were only worn at home and were created for the officers themselves at their own expence..... I have several different versions of the cap badge......

    On doing some reading I think that the badge shown herein is the wone actually worn in South Africa as wou can see it has been blackened..... They did not want the sun glinting on their badges to give away their position of course.....



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    Re: Rare Boer War Badge.....

    Post by qsamike on Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:04 pm

    Geoff....

    My badge is made from White Metal and has been hand cut..... I have 3 of them all white metal and there are slight differences between them and the loops on the reverse are cut wire not the formed wire..... I understand that the Brass ones were made for the CS Coronation Contingent.......

    Mike




    RUTTER R. (Richard) S. (Samuel)

    REG. NO.: 38388
    RANK: TROOPER
    REGT: CANADIAN SCOUTS
    BARS: CAPE COLONY, ORANGE FREE STATE, TRANSVAAL, SOUTH AFRICA 1902

    REMARKS / HISTORY:

    CANADIAN SCOUTS/NATAL RANGERS PAIR, TO TROOPER RICHARD S. RUTTER WHO SERVED IN THE BOER WAR 1899-1902; THE 1906 ZULU REBELLION. RUTTER DIED OF TUBERCULOSIS IN 1907.

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    Re: Rare Boer War Badge.....

    Post by GCR817 on Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:44 pm

    That is good information! I really don't know a lot about boer war badges but they certainly fascinate me.

    It looks like you have an impressive array!

    Any chance you have a QSA named to a CMR from Saskatchewan? I've always hoped to find one as I collect mostly Sask related militaria. Ursual had one listed years ago and I failed to buy it, which I still regret.

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    Re: Rare Boer War Badge.....

    Post by qsamike on Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:13 pm

    Sorry no CMR QSA but a Strathcona from Mooseomin.......

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    Re: Rare Boer War Badge.....

    Post by GCR817 on Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:44 pm

    That would be just as interesting! However, I presume that is part of collection and not available? Hmmmm, maybe I will turn up a "trade" sometime that you just can't live without!

    Cheers,

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    Re: Rare Boer War Badge.....

    Post by qsamike on Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:47 pm

    Geoff.....

    That would have to be one H*ll of a trade...... LOL

    Mike




    DOHERTY, G. H.(George Henry)

    REG. NO.: 114
    RANK: PRIVATE
    REGT: LORD STRATHCONA'S HORSE
    BARS: NATAL, ORANGE FREE STATE, BELFAST, SOUTH AFRICA 1901

    REMARKS / HISTORY:

    1. ENLISTED AT: MOOSOMIN, N.W.T.
    2. ENLISTED DATE: February 6th, 1900
    3. AGE: 25, BORN: April 1st, 1874
    4. BIRTHPLACE: CARLETON PLACE, ONTARIO
    5. HEIGHT: 5' 10 1/2", WEIGHT: 159
    5. TRADE OR CALLING: FARMER
    6. RELIGION: CHURCH OF ENGLAND
    7. NOK - MOTHER, MRS. JAMES DOHERTY, CARLETON PLACE, ONT.
    8. MARITAL STATUS: SINGLE
    9. DISCHARGED: March 8th, 1901
    10. LETTER FROM DOHERTY DATED August 4th, 1902 STATING THAT HE HAD NOT YET REC'D THE BARS FOR HIS MEDAL.
    11. DOCUMENTS ON FILE.
    12. PHOTO ON FILE
    13. BATMAN TO MAJOR BELCHER
    14. VERIFIED ON RONCETTI ROLL: MEDAL NUMBER 2721
    15. NOTE: ON MEDAL ROLL HAS REGIMENTAL NUMBER OF 14
    16. NUMBER 3 TROOP, A. SQUADRON, May 18th, 1900 - TO C SQUADRON, July 8th, 1900 - TO B SQUADRON, December 28th, 1900 - TO A SQUADRON.

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    Re: Rare Boer War Badge.....

    Post by GCR817 on Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:10 pm

    Hi Mike,

    Don't I know it! Speaking of which, are you collecting Imperial Boer War items as well as Canadian?

    When I have a chance, I'll post pics of my QSA which is to a Sask fellow who joined the SAC. He died in SA while on active service.

    Cheers,

    Geoff

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    SAC - to QSA

    Post by GCR817 on Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:36 pm

    Hi Mike (and forum).

    I decided photos were more fun than wrapping Christmas gifts. Hence, here is my QSA with five bars to 1379 3rd CL TPR R.S. HOWARD S.A.C.

    Tpr Howard enlisted in Moosomin, NWT (Sask) in 1901. He died of Enteric Fever at Elandfonstein in 1902.

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    Re: Rare Boer War Badge.....

    Post by qsamike on Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:12 pm

    Geoff.....

    The headstones look like the ones that were specifically made for the Canadians of Canadian Granite by Lady Minto and the Canadian South African Memorial Commission and then shipped to South Africa..... After WW2 when they moved a lot of the graves from the local and scattered cemetaries into one or two locations new headstones were made and placed to replace a number that were damaged......

    Mike

    P.S. His names are Robert Samuel..... Just incase you did not know.......

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    Re: Rare Boer War Badge.....

    Post by qsamike on Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:34 am

    Good Morning Geoff.....

    Just thought you would like to see another use of the Maple Leaf Cap Badge......

    I have been offered a couple of these over the years as Cap Badges which they are not..... They were sold in Toronto at the time of the return home parade..... They are a lot thinner that the normal Cap Badge and you can see the pin on the reverse..... I have seen a photo of the Mayor and Aldermen wearing the ribbon with the pin..... The Mayor had White, Aldermen Gold, Fire Chief Red and Police Chief Blue ribbons.....

    I noticed that I did not reply to your previous question, I collect anything from anywhere connected to the Boer War.....

    Mike









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    Re: Rare Boer War Badge.....

    Post by GCR817 on Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:40 am

    Hi Mike,

    Thanks for sharing that with me. Had I found one of these badges I would of assumed it was a cap badge.

    Should I find any Boer War spares, I'll let you know.

    Cheers,

    Geoff

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