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82 Pattern E-tool carrying case for 53 pattern shovel.
ddaydodger- New Member
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Interesting.... I've never seen that one before.
Tankermike- Member
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The 53 pattern shovel is not for this carrier, the fold up shovel fits this carrier, the hole is for drainage or dirt, I was isued this set in the early eighties and still have one, the 64 pattern carrier is the same except no plastic tangs to attach to the belt, just a velcro flap.
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Tankermike wrote:The 53 pattern shovel is not for this carrier, the fold up shovel fits this carrier, the hole is for drainage or dirt, I was isued this set in the early eighties and still have one, the 64 pattern carrier is the same except no plastic tangs to attach to the belt, just a velcro flap.
I'm not so sure about that. The same style shovel (53 pattern) was issued with the 64 pattern equipment. Sure, a tri-fold shovel may fit but I'm sure the opening in the bottom was intended for the wood handle to fit through. I've never seen any other kit with a drainage hole that size. Normally a grommet or two is sufficient to drain unwanted water. The standard 82 pattern carrier for the issued tri-fold shovel only has a small grommet on the bottom to drain water and the body is longer in length.
edstorey- Member
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I can confirm that this carrier was indeed designed for the 1951 Pattern Entrenching Tool. This carrier, which is basically a copy of that which was issued with the 1964 Pattern, was the first carrier type manufactured for the 1982 Pattern. It was replaced within a year by a larger sleeve type carrier for the new folding shovel that became the standard entrenching tool for the 1982 Pattern.
If you run a check on the NSN number, you will see that it is listed as the Carrier for the 1951 Pattern Entrenching Tool.
If you run a check on the NSN number, you will see that it is listed as the Carrier for the 1951 Pattern Entrenching Tool.
ddaydodger- New Member
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I have both the 51 pattern shovel carrier for the 82 webbing as well as the newer one, the 82 pattern shovel is significantly larger than the 51.
Tankermike- Member
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Shovel carrier
I was first issued the 64 pattern webbing then the 82 pattern webbing, I have never seen anyone wearing this type of shovel in my years in the CF.
Why have a shovel from the 1950's with modern web gear, both sets of webbing I was issued had the three fold shovel. Also if I remember there were two versions of the 82 pattern shovel, both were three fold style, but one shovel was bigger than the other. I looked at my 64 pattern webbing and the carrier has leather reinforcemnts on the lip for the three fold shovel.
Why have a shovel from the 1950's with modern web gear, both sets of webbing I was issued had the three fold shovel. Also if I remember there were two versions of the 82 pattern shovel, both were three fold style, but one shovel was bigger than the other. I looked at my 64 pattern webbing and the carrier has leather reinforcemnts on the lip for the three fold shovel.
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Just because it doesn't seem to make sense doesn't mean it isn't true. It's common for issue items to be re-purposed or used in a way that they were not originally intended. Don't confuse the way you used a piece of equipment with it's official intended purpose.
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